Comments for Nieman Lab https://www.niemanlab.org Thu, 08 Feb 2018 16:56:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by kmihindu https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302494 Thu, 08 Feb 2018 01:16:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302494 This is disappointing. I read the articles to get to the comments for a discussion of the topic. You can collapse threads that don’t interest you or look for commenters with interesting perspectives. A curated selection of well thought out comments is not a discussion, nor as enjoyable as a discussion. This just furthers the trend of people talking at each other instead of with each other.

People also shared their personal stories on the comment boards and were often met with kindness and encouragement. I don’t see a reason to shut that down.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Mentalcase https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302493 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:40:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302493 Letters section, give me a break. I guess I’ll be reading a different website.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Buzzkill https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302492 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:02:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302492 Bye Bye to The Atlantic. It was uber cringy while it lasted.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by echos of the mt's https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302491 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 20:35:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302491 There were times in the comments that I thought there were bots running. You had long, short answered back and forth comments between the same two ‘persons’.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Ever the skeptic https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302490 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302490 It’s an interesting strategy, but will probably result in less interest. People enjoy the articles and then the process of engaging with other readers whether in agreement or not.

“A team of staffers on the print and digital sides will read the letters, choosing the ones with the most interesting and challenging ideas.” That’s likely to turn into a series of short posts about how wise the authors of the articles are rather than some interesting critiques and defenses.

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Comment on Learning from the New Yorker, Wired’s new paywall aims to build a more “stable financial future” by Ryan N https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/learning-from-the-new-yorker-wireds-new-paywall-aims-to-build-a-more-stable-financial-future/comment-page-1/#comment-302489 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:50:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=153593#comment-302489 In reply to DG.

I agree, esp re: pagecount. For a few years now, I can barely tell what in WIRED is an ad, and what is actually an article or piece of substance. It all looks the same, or perhaps I should say, wildly varied in that there’s no clear distinction. I won’t be visiting WIRED under a paywall.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by fractal https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302484 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 00:30:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302484 The “provocative” has its place in discourse.
Imagine if George Carlin or Wanda Sykes or Richard Prior had been sidelined because s/he was too rude, too “knee-jerk” or overly strident?

We need all kinds of voices to spur imagination and consider ideas that are “freakish” now, but might be the way of the future; lots of cultural prophets are shamed and verbally abused, because their perspective is uncomfortable. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be available.

I think comment boards can be springboards for ideas whose time has come.
More than once I have read hilarious or bizarre POV’s on comment boards become a comedy joke on late night TV a few days later.
Doesn’t make for elegant journalism.
But it sure lets one put their finger on the pulse of America.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Rurik https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302483 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:44:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302483 So what you’re saying is The Atlantic is silencing women, people of color, and the trans community?

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by bendenny https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302482 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:14:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302482 In reply to j_b_spence.

Judging by what’s already been published, it’s 99% stuff agreeing with them.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by bendenny https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302481 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:09:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302481 The Atlantic has tried a shift away from comments before with it’s notes section, albeit at that time leaving the comments in place and just trying out a curated letter model. They then let that section die, withholding support and generally not promoting the concept.

Since opening their “letters” section, they’ve posted about six letters; out of those, all but one are positive and in agreement with their viewpoints, except one which is mostly positive and just offers some minor quibbles. Make no mistake: The Atlantic’s tactics here are to just make sure that what “dialogue” there is makes no significant criticisms of its articles.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by SraVigi https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302480 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302480 Another one bites the dust. I stopped reading NPR and HuffPost when they did this. It’s almost like these organs don’t get the internet age. Their readership expands hugely – & they get all kinds of ad$ from running their articles on the internet – but they miss the point entirely. 50% of my interest in reading any article is learning what others of any stripe are thinking about it. This is how I get a sense of public opinion. One can always scroll past tit-for-tat exchanges & find cogent input. I learn more – I’m morivated to get more facts to correct misinformed input – I’ve come to understand other viewpoints better. And I want the input when I read the article, not some other day from a letter the ed selected, especially if I can’t comment on it!!

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by skyshoes https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302479 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 13:56:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302479 Rarely but worth the scanning, comments sections have points of interest that delve deeper than the original article by people better versed or involved in the situation written about.

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Comment on Google developing a micropayment platform and pitching newspapers: “‘Open’ need not mean free” by Neeraj https://www.niemanlab.org/2009/09/google-developing-a-micropayment-platform-and-pitching-newspapers-open-need-not-mean-free/comment-page-1/#comment-302478 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:10:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=8304#comment-302478 Very interesting post…. I enjoyed reading your informative article and considering the points.Thanks for sharing this kind of post with us. really very great stuff, keep posting
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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nathan Zebrowski https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302477 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:09:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302477 In reply to j_b_spence.

Probably like NYT “picks.” Do these new sources understand that are becoming a monolithic wall of redundancy?

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nathan Zebrowski https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302476 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302476 Disappointing choice for The Atlantic. I read the comments as a way of hearing things I wouldn’t ordinarily hear. I need that. Most of what I read on The Atlantic I could read elsewhere. Emma Green is unique. So is Conor Friedersdorf. James Hamblin has done some different things. A few others. But does anyone think The Atlantic will generally stray far from CNN/WaPo/NYT when it comes to Trump, or most policy, politics, culture?

The Atlantic attracted a good range of commenters. Surely there is a good combination of an algorithmic way of automatically sorting out the worst comments, relying on reader’s flags, and hiring moderators. The Atlantic with a raucous democratic discussion going on is far, far better than The Atlantic without one.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302475 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:15:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302475 In reply to Harry Underwood.

You understand that Breitbart is an explicitly right wing news site right? The issue is that outlets like the Atlantic and NYTimes pretend at being unbiased journalism when they’re just boosters for the left.
Outfits like the Nation are at least honest about whose side they’re on. And interestingly have much more honest journalism.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302474 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:56:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302474 In reply to ReadingIt.

Do you have a point you’re tryinf to articulate?

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302473 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:50:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302473 In reply to ReadingIt.

Translation “no you are”.
This is the modern left people.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by ReadingIt https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302472 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:49:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302472 In reply to Harry Underwood.

That’s because they don’t want anyone to undermine their manufactured news. The whole organization was founded from a guy who got famous for making up fake new stories…

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302471 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:49:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302471 In reply to ReadingIt.

I do everything I can to be part of the problem. Unlike you compliant #fakeamericans that just nod and believe what you’re told.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by ReadingIt https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302470 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:48:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302470 In reply to Nigel McPhearson.

I know. Just look at you now…

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by ReadingIt https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302469 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:47:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302469 In reply to Nigel McPhearson.

So I guess you are part of the problem in the US.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by ReadingIt https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302468 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:47:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302468 In reply to Nigel McPhearson.

The leftist borg? The ‘borg’ more resembles the GOP. The GOP lawmakers often vote against their own beliefs because they have to vote as their ‘leader’ dictates or they face ostracization. The Dems tend to split more often, which makes me think they tend to think for themselves more.

I imagine if you watch FOX News, then I understand why you would think that way.

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Comment on Digging for dung, unearthing corruption: This South African investigative nonprofit could help take down the president by zenztaufik https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/01/digging-for-dung-unearthing-corruption-this-south-african-investigative-nonprofit-could-help-take-down-the-president/comment-page-1/#comment-302467 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:42:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=153945#comment-302467 Good article I like to read it
Herbalis Indonesia

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Comment on Local owners bought this newspaper back from a cost-cutting national chain. Next step: Bringing back the readers by zenztaufik https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/01/local-owners-bought-this-newspaper-back-from-a-cost-cutting-national-chain-next-step-bringing-back-the-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-302466 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:39:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=153542#comment-302466 Herbalis Indonesia

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Harry Underwood https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302465 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 22:36:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302465 In reply to Greg.

Multiple non-print, non-broadcast sites have closed their comments over the last 5-6 years. Vice’s Motherboard closed theirs, as has Recode, Mic and The Daily Dot.

But to bring nuance to this, I can understand that the focus by these sites is directed to reporting and opining without getting embroiled in comments with people who they’ll never meet. mostly don’t live anywhere near and won’t come at the story with nuance. The discussion part is being outsourced to social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Harry Underwood https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302464 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 22:10:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302464 In reply to Null261.

Brietbart actively deletes and blocks “left-wing” comments, no matter how innocuous.

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Comment on Local owners bought this newspaper back from a cost-cutting national chain. Next step: Bringing back the readers by oceanstater https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/01/local-owners-bought-this-newspaper-back-from-a-cost-cutting-national-chain-next-step-bringing-back-the-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-302463 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 16:14:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=153542#comment-302463 I read this at the suggestion of Bob Whitcom who writes for Golocal Providence. I hope the Eagle succeeds, enough to interest local investors in Rhode Island to bring back the once truly impressive Providence Journal. That paper still has some good people but has fallen on hard times as a succession of out of state (out of country?) owners have cut it back. I wont subscribe unless there is similar local ownership wanting to bring the Journal back but I will if that happens!

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302462 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 07:55:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302462 In reply to Null261.

Its worse. They literally reframe disagreement as “harassment” their fragile little world can’t stand up to the mildest criticism. And because of that it’s crumbling around them. Not all of them are taking it well either. Look at the weirdo Lolly that commented above for a good example.

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Comment on The Atlantic is killing its comments in favor of a new Letters section to showcase reader feedback by Nigel McPhearson https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/the-atlantic-is-killing-its-comments-in-favor-of-a-new-letters-section-to-showcase-reader-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-302461 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 07:24:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=154109#comment-302461 In reply to Lolly.

Haha. “Waaaah. People say things that disagree with me on the Internet!!” Must suck having all that impotent rage bottled up
Inside you loser. And yes. We’re taking everything from losers like you. Everything. You’re the very definition of a brain dead leftist moron. And your time is over. And you know it.

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